科学而伟大的东方传统文化（4）
东西方文化用潜意识与意识研究
Scientific and Great Oriental TraditionalCulture (4)
Oriental and Western Cultures: Research Through the Subconscious and Conscious
Mind"
主讲：清凉月老师
Speaker:Master Qingliangyue
编辑：思维本体学资料编译组
Editor:Siweibentiology Materials Translation Team
我们从小学到大学，一路走过来，都是在学习西方文化，你对东方文化的认识，是从西方文化的角度去认识东方文化的。你无法站在一个客观的立场，站在一个更高的高度，去认识东方传统文化。你是用一个文化去评判另一个文化，而如果你所认为好的文化，它事实上是个落后的文化，这将导致用一个落后的文化，去评判一个先进的文化。
From elementary school touniversity, we have been learning Western culture. Your understanding of Oriental
culture is shaped by the perspective of Western culture. You are unable to view Oriental traditional culture from an objective standpoint, from a higher vantage point. Instead, you use one culture to judge another. And if the culture you deem 'good' is, in fact, an outdated one, this will lead to judging an advanced culture through the lens of a backward one.
就相当于在火器已经得到广泛的应用时，研究人员向康熙建议，我们应该研究火器。康熙作为一个那么厉害的人物，却说：研究这干什么，我们用弓箭就把明朝的火器打败了，说明弓箭比火器先进，学他们干什么？这就说明，当你的已知比较匮乏的时候，它将限制你认识那个更先进的东西。而我们通过对东西方文化的对比，你也将能够验证这一点，我们最大的一个错误在于，我们用一个相对比较落后的东西，去评判一个先进的东西。因此，接下来，我们将对东西方文化进行对比，在对比中我们来认识这两种文化。
It is like whenfirearms had already been widely used, researchers suggested to Emperor Kangxi that we should study firearms. Despite being such a powerful figure, Kangxi replied, 'What is the point of studying this? We defeated the firearms of the Ming Dynasty with our bows and arrows, which shows that bows and arrows are more advanced. Why should we learn from them?' This illustrates that when your knowledge is limited, it will restrict your ability to recognize something more advanced. Through comparing Oriental and Western cultures, you can verify this point. Our greatest mistake lies in using a relatively backward thing to judge something more advanced. Therefore, next, we will compare Oriental and Western cultures, using this comparison to better understand these two cultures.
对于东西方文化的对比，我们首先要从这两种文化的形成进行对比。任何文化都不是天上掉下来的，都是人类所创造出来的，所以 我们要从我们人类的认知和研究的角度，去对比这两种文化，西方文化是怎么形成的，东方文化是怎么形成的。
When comparing Oriental andWestern cultures, we must first compare how these two cultures were formed. No culture simply falls from the sky; it is created by humans. Therefore, we need to compare these two cultures from the perspective of human cognition and research—how Western culture was formed and how Oriental culture was formed.
我们首先要明白，文化是人类研究事物形成的，因此对文化的认识，也必须从人类自身去了解。我们人类具有很多的思维状态，这些思维状态从心理学的角度讲，它分为意识和潜意识两种状态。
First, we must understand thatculture is formed through human study of things. Therefore, our understanding of culture must also come from understanding humanity itself. Humans possess many states of thinking, which, from a psychological perspective, can be divided into two states: consciousness and the subconscious.
西方文化主要是借助意识进行研究。意识就是我们所说的选择思维的高频活动状态，就是我们平常所说的发散性思维。它最大的问题有两个方面，第一，发散思维是一个线性思维，我们现在生活在这一点，你不知道昨天，你不知道未来。所以，会发明一些学科，比如考古学，以及对未来的这些预测研究等等，这是因为我们生活在一条直线上，一个线性的状态中。第二，在这种状态中 ，由于我们使用的是选择性思维的高频状态，它具有不确定性，所以我们对一切事物的认识，是从这种不确定性中，找到相对可以认识和掌握的规律，就是从偶然中找到必然的规律，这是我们在认识问题的时候所共同遵循的。
Western culture primarily relieson consciousness for research. Consciousness refers to the high-frequency state of selective thinking, what we commonly refer to as divergent thinking. It has two major issues. First, divergent thinking is a linear form of thinking. We live in the present, unaware of the past or the future. This is why disciplines such as archaeology and future prediction studies are invented—it is because we live in a linear, one-dimensional state. Second, in this state, because we are using the high-frequency state of selective thinking, it involves uncertainty.
Therefore, our understanding of things comes from finding relatively graspable laws within this uncertainty—finding necessary patterns from the random. This is a common approach we follow when understanding problems.
为了达到这一点，于是我们在对这个世界进行认识的时候，会有一个共同的规律，就是通过已知去推断未知，这是西方文化认识事物的方法。因此，我们在上学的时候，你从小学初中高中大学，事实上你重点是在解决两个问题，你在解决的第一个问题就是已知的问题，就是知识的问题。比如我们学习物理 学习化学，我们都先掌握已知的东西。我们总是告诉自己，我们站在古人的肩膀上，站在伟人的肩膀上向前看，因为我要掌握已知的东西。第二，我们要掌握这种推断的能力，这就是我们在学习西方文化时候必须学习的一门课程，叫逻辑学。逻辑学集中的表现就是数学，所以，数学为什么是一个基础学科，是你离不了的东西，那是因为这是西方文化一个核心的环节，离开这个东西，你就完全没法掌握西方文化，因为它就是通过已知去推断未知的。
To achieve this, when we seek tounderstand the world, there is a common principle: to infer the unknown from the known. This is the method by which Western culture understands things.
Therefore, throughout our schooling, from elementary school to middle school, high school, and university, we are essentially addressing two problems. The first problem we address is the known—knowledge. For example, when we study physics or chemistry, we first master the known concepts. We always tell ourselves that we stand on the shoulders of giants, looking forward, because we need to grasp what is known. The second problem is to master the ability to make inferences. This is a course we must study when learning Western culture, called logic. The central manifestation of logic is mathematics. This is why mathematics is a foundational subject—it is something you cannot avoid. This is because it is a core element of Western culture. Without it, you cannot fully grasp Western culture, as it operates by inferring the unknown from the known."
所以你必须有渊博的知识，同时具有推断的能力，这样，能力就非常强。所以，知识和能力是你必须掌握的两个东西，要不然你就完全没法认识西方文化，这是西方文化做科研的一个特征。
Therefore, you must have profoundknowledge and also the ability to make inferences. Only then will your abilities be truly strong. Knowledge and ability are the two things you must master; otherwise, you will be unable to understand Western culture. This is a characteristic of how Western culture conducts scientific research
东方文化是通过潜意识去学习，所以在东方文化的学习中，要求我们首先抛开当前状态。也就是说直接把这个体系推翻，要求你先进入潜意识状态，也就是我们大家常说的，无眼耳鼻舌身意。大家学过心理学，在你宏观的身体不太发挥作用的时候，潜意识才能发挥作用。所以，东方文化的研究的前提是，无眼耳鼻舌身意，所谓“意”就是我们当前状态的意识，就是必须抛弃这个意识思维，无眼耳鼻舌身意。
Oriental culture learns throughthe subconscious. Therefore, in learning Oriental culture, we are required to first set aside our current state. This means we must directly overturn the existing system and enter into a subconscious state. This is what we often refer to as 'no eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, or mind.' Those who have studied psychology know that when the macro body is less active, the subconscious can take effect. Therefore, the premise of studying Oriental culture is to 'have no eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, or mind.' The term 'mind' refers to the consciousness of our current state, which must be abandoned in favor of the subconscious thinking of 'no eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, or mind.
当我们抛弃这个之后，我们就不再受这个线性上的点所决定，就离开这个点。于是，你可以轻而易举的突破时间的限制。
Once we abandon this, we are nolonger constrained by the points on this linear path and are freed from this point. As a result, you can easily break through the limitations of time.
在西方文化里面，你怎么可能这样轻而易举的突破时间的限制，你做不到的，突破不了时间的限制，突破不了空间的限制，究竟什么原因导致的？因为你在这条线上，一旦你突破这条线的时候，时间和空间将完全无法障碍你。
In Western culture, how could youeasily break through the limitations of time? You can't do it. You cannot break through the limits of time or space. What is the reason behind this? It’s because you are on a linear path. Once you break through this line, time and space will no longer be obstacles.
那么在这种情况下，你对知识的学习，往往是豁然贯通的。所以，这样才会出现，六祖大师虽然是一个文盲，但是别人在读佛经的时候，很深奥的这些东西，他一听就知道，一听就明白。
In this case, your understandingof knowledge is often suddenly clear and profound. This is why it happened that although Master Huineng was illiterate, when others were reading the Buddhist scriptures, which contained deep and profound teachings, he could immediately understand and grasp their meaning upon hearing them.
什么原因？因为他和那个读的人是两种学习方式，读的那个人，他是用这种（意识）学习方式。这样，对他来说，就有很多未知，他需要推理。他读着佛经时，这个讲的什么？我要想一想，说原来讲的这个，他觉得他想通了，他这是通过已知去推断未知。
What is the reason for this? It isbecause he and the person reading are using two different methods of learning.
The person reading is using the conscious method of learning. For him, there are many unknowns, and he needs to reason them out. As he reads the Buddhist scriptures, he thinks, 'What is this about? Let me think... oh, it's talking about this.' He believes he has figured it out. He is inferring the unknown from the known.
而六祖大师完全不是这样，他是在潜意识状态去突破这个，获得这样一个义理的突破，这是东方传统文化的特点。
MasterHuineng, on the other hand, was not like this. He broke through in a subconscious state, achieving a breakthrough in understanding the principles. This is a characteristic of Oriental traditional culture."
因此，东方传统文化对科学家的要求是什么？你必须拥有一种能力，就是无眼耳鼻舌身意，不使用当前状态。西方文化特点是，你必须使用当前状态，要使用这个身体研究。所以我们在考大学的时候，我们要进行体检，看你的身体方面正常不正常，因为你要借助它去研究的。所以西方文化是有眼耳鼻舌身意，用眼耳鼻舌身意。东方文化是无眼耳鼻舌身意，第一步是必须抛弃这东西才可以。这是从人，从研究者这个角度来说的。
Therefore, what is the requirementof Oriental traditional culture for scientists? You must possess a certain ability: to have no eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, or mind, and not use your current state. The characteristic of Western culture is that you must use your current state, and use this body for research. For example, when we apply to universities, we have to undergo a medical examination to check if our body is functioning properly, because you need to use it for your studies. So, Western
culture uses eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, and mind. Oriental culture, on the other hand, is 'no eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, or mind.' The first step is to abandon this in order to proceed. This is from the perspective of the person or the researcher.